[Trainer-talk] Screen Reader Users Teaching Magnification Software?

[David Goldfield]

I agree with Reginald. When I teach Zoomtext, I always turn mouse echo 
to the instant setting. This way, if a student is moving the mouse I can 
always know where he/she is pointing to based on what I hear. As an 
example, if you tell them to move to the ribbon and you hear the title 
bar or the quick access toolbar you will have an idea of where the 
student is and you can then direct them to move down a little bit, move 
a bit to your left, etc. Also, if your student moves into unfamiliar 
territory don't be afraid to let them be your screen reader, so to 
speak. If he says "I'm lost" ask "OK, tell me what you see" and this can 
be quite helpful.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
www.davidgoldfield.info

On 7/31/2015 11:00 AM, Reginald George via Trainer-talk wrote:
> I am totally blind, and I do teach ZoomText to a point.  I at least 
> help clients to discover their preferences and save them.  I went 
> through ZoomText University and got my ZT certification.  That being 
> said, I don't find it easy or comfortable all the time.  Especially if 
> they are a new computer user, and don't know Windows well.  If they 
> want to use their mouse, and this is perfectly appropriate for many 
> people who's site is fairly stable, then I can't always know where 
> they are on the screen.  And they can't always tell me.  Getting them 
> used to panning and scrolling and finding where they are can be 
> challenging.  It's easy to demonstrate
> features like the app reader, changing views, and so on.  You leave 
> the speech on, and this helps you to know if they are following your 
> instructions.  You throw the mouse overboard and teach some keyboard 
> commands, and in general try to get them to be verbal about what is 
> working for them.
>
> Reg
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Johnson via Trainer-talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:46 PM
> To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Matthew Johnson
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] Screen Reader Users Teaching Magnification 
> Software?
>
> Hello:
> I'm looking for advice from blind screen-reading AT instructors who
> have taught low-vision users of magnification software. In general,
> how difficult is it for a totally blind trainer to teach programs like
> ZoomText or MAGic?
>
> I've spoken with a couple magnification users who had trouble relating
> to trainers who usually teach and know JAWS, NVDA or who couldn’t see
> the screen. Some of them also feel like the broader assistive
> technology field mostly caters to users of screen readers. How can we
> bridge the gap?
>
> Matthew
>
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