[Trainer-Talk] Advice for Windows 10 with NVDA

[Barbara Johnson]

Thank you all for your input.  Does anyone have experience with Joseph Lee's
addons that supposedly fix some of NVDA's apps?  
http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

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Reginald George via Trainer-Talk
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I agree with everything David says here.  Also a new version of NVDA just
came out that better supports Office.  I se no reason for a Windows 8.1 user
to stay with 8.1 because Windows 10 is superior in almost every way, and the
default apps like Mail under Windows 8 aren't accessible either.  Windows 7
users might still like Windows 7 more than Windows 10, but Windows 10 is
definitely usable.  One thing I don't like in Windows 10 is that you seem to
lose the ability to use first letter navigation on the start menu, and
Cortana, the automated voice assistant is pretty much worthless for a screen
reader user.  And it didn't have to be that way.  Microsoft kind of blew it
on that one.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 4:55 PM
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Cc: David Goldfield
Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Advice for Windows 10 with NVDA

Barbara,
I'm an NVDA user running Windows 10 Pro and I can tell you that the
operating system itself is accessible.
At times, I get this impression that people are fearful that Windows 10 is
not accessible. The answer to this issue is a bit complex but I'll try to
summarize.
As an operating system, Windows 10 is quite accessible with the latest
version of today's screen readers, NVDA included. In other words, you can
easily access and navigate the start menu, desktop, various file folders,
etc. The sticking point comes in regarding some of the built-in apps or
programs. As an example, the new browser called Edge has some accessibility
problems and, as far as I know, NVDA is the only screen reader which works
with it and NVDA is claiming to offer just experimental support. There were
some problems accessing Windows 10's built-in Mail app but Microsoft reports
they have already implemented some fixes, a claim I haven't yet verified.
So, the short answer is that Windows 10 is accessible. Where you may
encounter problems is if you use some of the built-in apps which come
preinstalled with Windows 10.
However, for me this is a nonissue as I use Firefox as my browser of choice
and Internet Explorer 11 still comes with Windows 10 and works reasonably
well with NVDA. For mail, Outlook works well as does the free Thunderbird,
which I personally use and recommend. For me, Windows 10 is an incredibly
stable operating system. It's solid, fast and I personally would never
revert back to an earlier operating system. In spite of accessibility issues
which I feel Microsoft should have already addressed, I honestly believe
that Windows 10 is their best operating system. In addition, Microsoft has
publicly talked about accessibility improvements which they are planning to
implement in Windows 10.
I don't think you'll experience any major issues using Windows 10 with NVDA.



        David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/28/2016 7:37 PM, Barbara Johnson via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> I am working with a student in Cameroon who is about to receive a 
> computer from the United States.  The computer has Windows 8.1 and 
> Office 2010.  He will be using NVDA as a screen reader.  NVAccess says 
> that, as of November, 2015, there are significant problems with NVDA 
> and Windows 10.  I have seen addons by Joseph Lee that are supposed to 
> fix some of the problems.  Can an NVDA user advise me whether to 
> download Windows 10 for this student or use 8.1?  Thank you.
>
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